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tomorrow we will get personalith michele bachmann. questions and answers you haven't heard nirn else and the man who is taking center stage in the gop race, herman cain. our special guest. we are looking forward to that. we hope you will join us for both of those tomorrow. and thursday, our coverage of the terror attack good evening. in a moment we'll get to my extraordinary interview with the outrageous osbourne family. but first breaking news tonight. it sounds like a spy novel or hollywood thriller, a deadly plot to assassinate saudi arabia's ambassador to the united states, the plan to make the hit in a crowded washington restaurant a place popular with members of congress. u.s. officials say iranian secret police tried to hire hitmen from mexico's drug cartel to pull off the plot. joining us so jessica yellin. jessica, a quite extraordinary james bond-style plot here. tell me more about this. >> reporter: well, the plot was
under way for many months, and it got so far that money was actually transferred for an assassination. what the iranians didn't know, piers, was the person they hired to carry this out was a dea informant working for the u.s. government. so it was never actually going to take place. >> but that was a massive stroke of luck, presumably. >> reporter: absolutely. once this dea informant was contacted by the iranians, the fbi was brought in. what we know tracing the timeline was the president was notified in june. the arrest of the naturalized u.s. citizen, the iranian we all have a mug shot of now was on september 29th. so it unfolded over the course of about four months where u.s. law enforcement was tracking it for all that time. >> secretary of state clinton said today the idea that they would attempt to go to a mexican drug cartel to solicit murder for hire to kill the saudi ambassador, nobody can make it up.
it is an extraordinarily outrageously aw dash out plot, isn't it? >> reporter: it is remarkable. does seem like something out of a spy novel. we're told it's bad guys contacting bad guys. there's not some sort of known connection between the iranian quds force and mexican drug cartels. it was just a way for the iranians to potentially disguise their involvement in this kind of attack were it to be carried out. >> jessica, thank you very much. joining us now is mib michigan congressman mike rogers, the chairman of the house intelligence committee. congressman, a big success here for the intelligence services, but what an extraordinary story. >> yeah, it is. and you know, i wouldn't discount the fact that they went to the drug cartel. if you look at the sophistication of this plot, but for the fact that this particular informant -- and piers, this is somebody who had a long relationship with the u.s. government, but he was well entrenched in the za, id crime
family, a drug cartel down in mexico, who had the means and the materials to pull something like this off. they used somebody who wasn't affiliated directly with the iranian irgc, their military intelligence services, to contact this individual and arrange for the wiring of the money to make it go operational. i have to tell you, when you first heard of this plot back in june, you thought, boy, this doesn't even make sense. why would they go through this process. but as it unfolded, it became very clear how deadly serious they were about pulling this off. >> i mean, given the sums of money involved, given the elaborate nature of the plot, is it conceivable that moammar ahmadinejad or the supreme leader khameni, didn't know about this. >> it would be difficult for them to deny. this is a group the irgc that's worked with the quds force, bringing weapons systems into
iraq to kill u.s. soldiers, up the mischief in afghanistan to do same kinds of things, they're supporting hezbollah in their terrorist activities. they've got bad things going on in bahrain. we can track their activities, we know how dangerous and, piers, they're very, very good. don't look at this as the keystone cops. this was just good fortune that they picked the wrong guy to arrange this, but if you look at his profile, he was really good. so we know all of those things about what bad things that they're doing around the world. and they were completely serious about pulling this off. now, in all of those other operations i just talked about, piers, all of those have to go up the chain of command. they're not going to give away a million dollar and plan an operation in america by just two guys in the basement of the irgc thinking wouldn't this be a good idea. i think they've got a lot of explaining to do about what their involvement was in this. and i think the international
community really needs to step up its pressure on their state sponsored terrorism activities. >> well, this is big question now. hillary clinton said today what everybody is learning is that nobody is safe from the iranians. the attorney general eric holder said, and i quote, the united states is committed to holding iran responsible for its actions. what does that actually mean in practice? >> what we hope happens now is that this is an opportunity for the administration to engage our european allies in tougher sanctions. they've been pretty good. they can be better. and it's really a message to china and russia who have been pretty difficult in tough sanctions on iran. they need to decide now are they going to stand with a nation state who is actively engaged in terrorism including the assassination of diplomats here in the united states, washington, d.c., specifically, or are they going to stand with the international community who stands for the rule of law and justice? and this is their chance. this is an opportunity for the rest of the world to stop putting pressure on these two actors who have very
self-serving reasons not to have sanctions on iran, to do the right thing. this is their chance to do the rest of the world and say we've got to stop this kind of behavior. that's the short-term goal of the administration. then secondly, those activities in iraq and afghanistan that are directly leading to the deaths of u.s. soldiers, i think we need to be more aggressive about dealing with that. >> i mean, what was extraordinary was the brazen nature of this. the instructions were that it should happen maybe in a washington restaurant packed full of potentially american citizens as well and if, you know, dozen, hundreds of people got killed, it didn't matter. it's an extraordinary situation to emerge today. >> what we see is iran has become more brazen. their activities in iraq that really went unchecked publicly at least, their activities in afghanistan, they're really defying the world saying we're going to get a nuclear weapon program. we really don't care what you all think.
their activities about hezbollah, very brazen. the more brazen they got, i think they really thought we can pull this off and if we kill a lot of people in the process, we don't care. that's really the mind-set of where iran is today and why this is so dangerous and so serious and why we need to come together internationally to put an end to this. >> finally, i would imagine the saudis are furious about this. what would you imagine their reaction may be? >> well, the good news is when the early stages of this, they were briefed as to the security that they might need to undergo to make sure that if something went wrong in the operation and they were able to get there, that they would be safe and able to keep the ambassador safe as well as other security precautions. but you can imagine that the tension between iran and saudi arabia, which is already there, is only going to get worse. and they've got a lot of work to do here. and saudi arabia has been pretty clear that a nuclear iran is the worst possible outcome for the middle east's stability.
they're going to have a lot of bilateral discussions they have to go through here. their activities in iran have been a strain on saudi and iranian relationships, some of the activities in syria have been a strain on saudi/iranian relationship. now what they've done is brought the whole world including the united states and the american public into this very nasty fight about iranian search of greater influence in the region that is dangerous and it shows you the kind of decisionmaking that they're going to do here is exactly why we need to be aggressive on their nuclear weapon program and their state sponsor of terrorism. >>ly does. >> thanks for having me. >> up next my remarkable interview with america's heavy metal family next door, the osbournes. [ male announcer ] the cold aisle can be overwhelming.
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osbourne. >> i call piers a pompous bastard. >> the heir to the throne, jack osbourne. >> yeah, i just hope piers isn't a [ bleep ], as always. >> just your average hard living heavy metal biting bat heads off family next door. you've heard the stories, and i can tell you from personal experience, they're all true. tonight the osbournes uncensored -- >> [ bleep ] you all! >> -- well, nearly uncensored. this is "piers morgan tonight." >> yeah! ♪ >> ozzy, sharon, jack, here we are on the outskirts of hollywood in one of your many fab lis homes.
do you ever sit here just the three of you sometimes and think, how did we get here? >> every day. i got -- how i got here, i come from the airport, got in a cab. >> be serious a moment. i watched jack's movie about you, ozzy. and what it reminded me is from the very humble beginnings that you all came from -- you didn't come from any privilege or any great wealth or anything. particularly you, ozzy. i just wonder whether sometimes you have that moment where you just think how did this happen? >> you know, i had the occasion to go back to the house i grew up in in ashton birmingham a few months ago. it's when you go back that the reality of what you've done hits you right between the eyes, i mean. >> it's a tiny house. >> tiny, tiny. you could get this whole thing into this area. there were six of us, and my mom and dad. i don't know how we did it.
>> for you, jack, the complete converse. because you were born into pretty fabulous wealth and luxury and everything else, yet the overriding sense i got from the movie that you made, which was a painstaking labor of not entirely love i have to say over two or three years, was that the money just never brought any proper happiness. there's a moment of real awareness with ozzy, i think, when you say to him, you say, all the stuff i've bought you, jack, over the years. you never wanted for anything. anything you ever wanted. and you just turn around and say, yeah, except a proper father. >> yeah, but i think that's kind of what makes -- i mean, our family relatable. it doesn't matter what walk of life you come from, addiction still affects a family the same way. whether you are living in a, you know, beautiful mansion in hidden hills or you're living in a ghetto in south central. it's still going to be the same issues within a family.
i can only speak for myself. i went from being a relatively normal 15-year-old in high school to being all over mtv and literally i could do whatever i wanted. and i was being praised for it no matter what. and so you can't not let that affect you negatively because it's like, how far can i push it today? what can i do today that i couldn't do yesterday? >> if you had your time again, would you choose to be in that mtv show? >> absolutely, yeah. because i mean, i wouldn't be here talking to you. and what a gem that is. >> maybe the down side. sharon, would you? would you take all your kids into that environment again knowing what happened to them after? because it was incredibly exciting, but it was much bigger than i think any of you realized and the harsh reality in the media for most of your kids, it was pretty tore torous years after. >> i've gone over and over the same question in my mind, did i do the right thing.
and i honestly have to say that i would do it again. i definitely would. we had unbelievable experiences as a family that we shared. it was an amazing time in our life. yes, bad things happen. but bad things happen anyway. >> what's interesting, i think, with you, and i've got to know you well. i feel very privileged to have done that. but i didn't know you through the really bad days. and what came through in the movie was there were a lot of bad days. there weren't many good days as far as some of the family were concerned. >> it wasn't my idea when i was living -- this is documented as well. i'd go out and have a few drinks and wake up and charged with attempted murder of sharon. i have no idea how that happened, but it did. that didn't even stop me from drinking and getting crazy. i mean, i had just come back from england and the drug scene in england is rampant. >> it is. >> it's rampant.
not just england. all over. it's everywhere. it's the hard core stuff, you know? >> what do you think of that, coming from britain and going back there and seeing it's so much more prevalent now given what it did to you and your life and the impact on your family. >> well, i'm lucky. i don't smoke, i don't drink, i don't do drugs any more. before amy winehouse and it was like you get to know somebody who knew somebody who knew somebody to get it. but now the availability is easy now. >> interesting about amy winehouse. i know you knew her and kelly was a friend of amy's. i got to know mitch, her father. a very emotional interview. i went into it thinking i'm going to hold him accountable. he is the father. when i heard him talk about the battles he'd had to try and control amy and the drugs and everything else and the alcohol in particular, which actually became worse than the drugs for
her, i had a lot more sympathy for him and i felt real impathy towards him. do you feel lucky that none of your kids ended up like amy winehouse? >> lucky is not the word. it's blessed. i feel blessed. and amy's dad was very well educated in the disease. he was very well read. he knew all about it. we were just blessed with our children that at the end of the day, it didn't get the better of them. >> what about me? >> what about you! >> i think she's referring to you as one of the children, ozzy. i interviewed kelly a while ago. i was pretty startled by how close she felt she'd come to possibly losing her life to drugs. >> you look at people like kelly and you look at amy winehouse.
they're tiny little girls. tiny little girls. they've got nothing -- you know, you drink, drink, drink and you know, then they don't eat, then they throw up. then all of this stuff. how do their bodies take it? how do they think their bodies can continue doing this? and doing this? >> but at the same time, it has nothing to do with the size, the age, the width, it's to do with the look. how many people big guys honestly and they choke on their vomit. and it happens every night. >> sharon says she feels blessed that none of her children ended up losing their lives through drugs. do you feel lucky? what do you feel? >> yeah. it was definitely one of the key factors in helping me stay sober was kind of realizing that, for all accounts, i probably should have died. i did a lot of stupid things and i was fortunate enough to always
wake up the next day. that's something that, when i got sober, i was like, well, there's probably a reason. so i have to figure that out. >> when we come back, sharon talks about the darkest moment of her marriage, when ozzy tried to kill her. >> it was pretty damn scary because you're on your own. what the hell do you do? ♪ [ male announcer ] its design inspires. its power impresses.
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yes, they've made the decision. we've made the decision you're going to have to die. and then he just got up from the sofa and just dived on me and started to choke me. >> the clip, of course, from your movie, jack, "god bless ozzy osbourne." interesting, it was a very, very powerful moment when you're both talking about that moment you described earlier when you tried to throttle sharon to death. you know. you were clearly feeling in extreme danger in that moment. but you couldn't remember any of that. sharon talks about your eyes going crazy. and she didn't even recognize the real ozzy there. i mean, that's an extraordinary moment to reach, isn't it? >> i don't know. because i can't remember. >> and that's his excuse. and he's sticking to it. >> no, believe me -- >> i know. >> i honestly could remember, i'd say darling, i'm sorry. >> [ bleep] >> it is slightly surreal to have a laughing conversation, oh, yes, and you tried to kill
me. >> in a funny way, in the movie, it was a bit surreal watching that because sharon was able to kind of deal with it in a relatively calm way when in fact it must have been at the time just grotesque, wasn't it? >> it was pretty damn scary because you're in a house, no neighbors each side, your kids are asleep. you know, you're on your own. what the hell do you do? it's frightening. >> you must have thought to yourself, what am i doing here? why am i staying in this? what was the answer when you ask yourself that? >> oh, god, yeah. many times i would consider it and i'd go you will the scenarios in my head. and that one time when, you know, ozzy was arrested, we were parted for three months. of course, first month it was like, oh, heaven.
no arguments. there's, you know, lovely atmosphere in the house. and it's great. then the second month, you know, the kids, where's dad? we really want to see dad. and i want to really see dad, too. and then by the third month, you know, it's like, we can make it work. >> how would you imagine that you're a shrinking violet in any situation, sharon? >> no, as hard as ozzy would hit me, i would clobber him back. if ever he went to hit me, i would just go right back for him. >> jack, when you hear that. these are your parents talking about punching each other as hard as they can. >> yeah. >> what do you feel when you hear that? >> honestly, it's just kind of -- >> show business. >> no, not even that. nothing. to me, they never really did that in front of us. it was never like a, you know, out in the middle of the living room blow for blow. when the kids are tucked in bed
you'd hear some almighty ruckus downstairs. you come down, what's going on? oh, nothing. everything's fine. meanwhile someone has an ice pack on their face. >> what have i always told you? >> what? never in front of the kids? >> no. >> what? >> you never hit a girl. >> no, you never hit a girl. >> that's great. i got long hair and i -- never hit a girl. what about you [ bleep ] hitting us then? >> yes, that's exactly right. >> i'm saying that, though. i think mental violence, mental abuse, women are great at that mental thing. >> but do you feel, ozzy, you're a completely different human being now? >> yeah. i know where i am now. >> for 20 years or more, you -- >> because that's what i thought you did. i thought you get success in the rock 'n' roll and just get loaded, happily ever after. >> to put the flipside on it,
was it for a long time great fun being ozzy. >> it was great fun until it wasn't. sharon would say this, i should be firing guns and doing crazy things. but then the coin flipped to the side. and i didn't drink because i wanted to, i drank because i had to. >> what was the moment of awakening for you? when did you think, you know what? enough of this? >> i don't know. i mean i'd stop -- the first thing that i quit, i don't know why, was cigarettes. i mean, i never woke up in jail from smoking too many cigarettes. i came back from rehearsal and i said, i can't do this. i'm a singer, you know. and my voice. and the rest of it toppled down like that. >> once you realized you could give up something -- >> i had, you know, they say i got sick and tired of being sick and tired.
i put the patch on. i didn't have a cigarette all day, take it off at night. i do this in combinations. then i had the conversation with myself where i said, look, all right, are you going to do it or not? because you're driving me and everybody around you mad. that was it, really. i made the decision and stuck to it. >> sharon, would you go along with that? >> no. >> oh, [ bleep] >> jack had got himself clean and sober, and i'm not sure how long he was in to his sobriety, but i think it was about a year. and we came home one day, the family, and ozzy was in his what we call his bunker. and completely out of it. he'd fallen from the chair on to the floor, he was crumpled on the floor.
he was covered in piss and booze. and -- >> had you pissed on me as well? >> and jack just cracked up. jack just absolutely lost it. and i think that when ozzy got sober, you know, the next day and realized what was happening -- what had happened, i think it shamed him. and i think shame has a lot to do with it. >> you don't agree, ozzy? >> no. i've been shamed before. i've been in prison before. i've been all of that. the thing comes when you make that decision, you go, i need help. i'm going to get help. i want to stop. >> it wasn't really jack reacting to you? >> maybe was. i can't remember what sharon just said. but the decision came from my -- the inner me. i got fed up with myself, you know. >> jack, do you remember the incident?
>> yeah. i mainly remember the argument i had with my dad the next day. because it was after -- because right when i got sober, dad was kind of trying along with me. and he was kind of jumping on and off the wagon. and it was after his motorcycle accident that he basically shattered his body and he was on a bunch of pain medication, and it was like around the time -- it was around april or may 2004, yeah, something like that. and we just got in a big argument because he was still kind of self-administering his pain meds and getting a bit creative. >> pain meds [ bleep] >> [ bleep ] because that's where the argument came from. >> i think it's fair to say, ozzy, i'm lending my ear more to the memory banks to my right than the left on this.
>> whatever it was, you know, the result was good. it doesn't matter the series of events that led up to it. >> the result was great. ozzy, you've been properly clean the whole time i've known you, which is the last five years. from what i can detect from talking to your family, you feel like you got your father, proper father. sharon has got proper ozzy husband back. and your life is a totally different life together now. i want to take a short break. then i want to come back and talk to you about two what i thing are two really huge moments in the osbourne family life. one was when sharon got cancer and the other was you, ozzy, coming off that bike in britain. ♪ times have changed ♪ and times are strange ♪ to a patient in time for surgery may seem like a trumped-up hollywood premise. ♪ but if you take away the dramatic score... take away the dizzying 360-degree camera move...
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dove that we just witnessed, the story about the dove, turned into the glorious infamous bat. and the legend was born of ozzy the bat biter. what have you got against bats? >> nothing. >> really? >> i didn't have crazy stuff when i was -- i mean, that bat thing, 25 years ago. i still get asked about the damn bat. the bat is more famous than me. >> you got a bat. >> i don't buy this. >> sharon buys it. a permanent memento. >> that isn't the bat. >> i got lights made in the shape of bats in his office. >> i know it's not the bad because it's still got its head on. >> head on it, yes. >> that incident with the dove, with the record company executives, it told me so many things because it was the glee that sharon told the story, showed me why you two are made
for each other. because you actually loved him doing that. it was crazy, shocking, offensive, outrageous, all the things that i know that working with your wife on "america's got talent" she is, too. she's like you. jack, am i wrong here? am i misreading the tea leaves? >> my mom's a very strong-willed woman. >> when you go at each other, it must be unbelievable. >> mom is the boss. >> is that understood? >> without a doubt. >> when it comes to it -- >> when you have your moments, too, people -- you know, we do. >> [ bleep] >> well, because we get scared. the whole thing was -- >> does an ozzy temper tantrum sober match anything -- >> still, when dad gets upset, it's still a very earth shaking occasion. >> really? >> dad likes to slam things. >> [ bleep] >> stomp around.
>> ozzy, would you say you have anger management issues? >> not really. i have a wife. >> when we were kids, it was always mom was the main disciplinarian, but it was always when we kind of stopped listening to her, it was well, fine, i'll call your father. wait till your father gets home. then you kind oh knew, this was serious now. >> when he comes home. >> if he comes home. six weeks later. >> one of the most memorable parts of the mtv series comes when you all discover that sharon has got cancer. and you can see the effect this has on you all because, as you say, she's the mother hen figure here. and you all have to come to terms with the possibility that you might lose her. what was that like, do you think, in reality for the family? >> it was the strangest thing because we were all on such a big high from the show being such a success and everything had completely blown up. it was the beginning of summer. and kelly and i were having a great time.
kelly just got a record deal. she was getting ready to move to new york to do her album. and it was this -- we were having a really good time. then all of a sudden we get a phone call saying, you know, your mom has colon cancer and it's not looking good. and it was like the strangest curveball. >> ozzy, for you, it looked like in the series that you sort of fell apart a bit. >> completely. >> you couldn't deal with it. >> i mean, every time she'd go for the treatment of chemotherapy, she'd have a seizure. every time she had a -- every seizure would get worse than the last one. till the end, i don't know what was keeping her arms and legs on her body. i remember towards the end of the treatment, i turned to the doctor and i said, doc, we got to do something. i was helpless. i couldn't do anything. you know. that's what you feel. when someone that you dearly love go through something like
chemotherapy and the treatment is kind of worse than the disease or it appears so. because she'd literally be like the exorcist lev statelevitating, you know. >> when you had that moment on camera, was that when you thought we've got to get these cameras away? why are we living our lives like this. >> they were very respectful. they were like family. we'd been living with them for a year. the producers, they knew we're going to shut down for a couple days, and they would. >> when they first got the diagnosis, one of the guys, comes to me and said, should we pack up? i said it's a reality show. see what sharon says. >> and i thought that if we'd have packed up, that the kids would know how sick i really was.
so i just wanted it to be, you know, business as usual. >> did you think ozzy could have copied if you had died? >> no. i can't cope. but you know what? with that whole period, you kind of got through the day how far you could. >> do you know what, piers? i don't know whether i should have answered no to that because if you would have asked me will ozzy ever get clean and sober, i would have said no. so you don't know. >> well, i reckon you could have gone either way looking at the state you were in on the show, if the worst had happened, you may have snapped out of all the -- >> that whole period of when she got cancer, i was living in a bubble. not just because i was drinking and getting stoned, but when you get married, they don't give you a booklet to read these, 9
million of these things might happen and when it comes to the cancer part, this is what you do. you have to go out and make it up as you go along. and i just believe that she survived all that, you know. >> the irony is that a few years later, it was a complete role reversal. you fall off this quad bike at your british home. you suffer horrendous injuries. i remember a newspaper at the time said that ozzy may have died in this, and if he hasn't he's very seriously injured. what's it like for you, sharon? now the roles are reversed and you have to face up to ozzy having a serious injury. >> scared stiff. i was scared stiff of losing my husband and being on my own. that's what was terrifying me. i didn't want to be on my own. to me, our relationship had gone through so much and it was just
starting to get on an even road. and it would be don't tell me now after everything i'm going to lose him. >> jack, what was it like for you? >> no one really told me the severity of it. i always asked he knocked himself out, he broke his arm and da, da, da, da, and okay. how is it? he's bad but it's going to be okay. it was constantly like this because i couldn't leave because i was working. i didn't really know the severity till i got to england and saw british newspapers and how bad it actually was and reading things and seeing dad in hospital. i ended up getting really, really angry as a result of it. >> the list, broken neck, broken collarbones, all your ribs were fractured. i broke five ribs once and the most painful thing i ever had. not to mention punctured lung, they thought it might cut into the artery. heavy duty. what were you thinking when you were lying in the hospital?
>> when i got out -- hospital is not exactly a disco. there's a lot of sick people. >> did you feel at that stage you were either one of the unluckiest people in the world -- >> no. >> -- or one of the luckiest? because the osbournes seem to have been blessed by extraordinary bad luck but the fact that you've come through these things -- >> no, you can't say that piers. if you weigh the bad luck and the good luck, the remarkable -- >> it's always here or here, never midround. >> never boring, is it. >> no. >> coming up words from ozzy osbourne's father. >> do something about your drinking and do something about your sleeping pills. and the next day he was gone. my doctor told me calcium
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>> my father is the same kind of build, a short guy. he was a hard worker. he worked nights in a factory called lucas in birmingham. i have a regret that i never had a chance to sit down and have ha man-to-man talk with him. >> so he would have seen a lot of your fame. >> oh, yeah. >> how did he feel -- >> on his death bed, he said to me, the only thing i have to say to you -- he thought all drugs were speed or sleeping pills. he didn't know anything else. he said to me, look, do something about your drinking and do something about your sleeping pills. and the next day he was gone. i mean, it's like i have a lot of regrets that i didn't -- i was too young and too big headed, if you like, because i was right in the clouds with black sabbath and i was somebody and had money in my pocket and i had a car and my own house.
>> do you think he would have been very proud of you, of what you've now done. >> i know he would. i know he would. i have picture in my room. >> he was a nice guy. >> sharon, you had a good relationship with their father. >> you could say that. >> my original back, i found extraordinary which you have been through with him and the sadly died a couple of years ago. when that happened, what was your real emotion when you realize you is no longer going to be a part of your life? >> i got the most amazing gifts from my father, the gift of music, i was involved with so
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test. cl my >> i couldn't in this interview without the real reason, this but, trust me, lima dr. ozzie. and more ludicrous title. in node to all patients. if someone had told me a few years ago i end up writing a book of the baez, i have punish them in the nose for taking it. i mean, unless the advice is headed in that dead or in jail, i am not exactly qualify. i'm ozzy osbourne, not oprah [ bleep ] winfrey. >> you have been written and hilarious book in which you
offer an array device to people. some may come around to your way of thinking because whatever your problem is, you have had it. only worse. >> i survived. >> exactly. you are still here, fit as a bill and you are the perfect guy to advise people of the problems. >> this book is basically common sense because people write to me and ago, i've got these terrible hamites, then why are you writing to me for? if you can write to me, printing the paper you have these tremendous amorites, i am sure your doctors will go, my god. >> could you ever imagine that your father would become a medical advisory board? >> um, it wouldn't surprise me because he knows about what every single pharmaceutical is under the sun. you call and he was like the doctor gave me this. he said take to make in the morning that actually eat after you take it, not before picking knows anything about everything medical.
>> as soon as you come in with like a bad from a pharmacy, he is an ad looking at it, reading it, all print. >> you are a chronic hypochondriac. >> he is. >> even better. you think you are about to die anyway. this book is like a testament picky things you have problems? yes, yet. >> my heart stopped twice and it kept going. >> how did it keep going? >> i don't know. >> as i talk to you, it seems the osborn's, despite everything, all the mayhem, you have all arrived into a pretty good place. kelly is doing fantastically well in many areas of entertainment. and using happy not doing the entertainer appeared you have had a successful movie, and other exciting projects. you are clean and d.c. much more content than you have been probably previously. sharon, you get to work with me
which is the pinnacle of anyone's career. >> here we go. you had to hang it on that one. >> trying to put a positive on it. >> that is why we love him. >> do you feel you are in a good place now is a family? do you feel like all the torment has been worth it? >> but always, even when things have been really down, we are so blessed. we are so lucky. >> you know, i was meant to be the sharon and sharon was meant to be with me. >> i totally believe that. knowing you as well as i do now i couldn't imagine in selecting either the on anybody else. a perfect marriage made in health care right, jack? >> try growing up with that. >> where did we find little jack? >> jack is the lone voice of sanity. >> oddly, my life is absolutely insane right now.
>> jack because something to tell me? >> well, yes, i guess technically i do have something to tell you. i am about to be a father. and they're going to be grandparents. >> is that right? that is fantastic. you're going to be a granddad again. how he felt? >> i am excited. all nervous but i am excited. it will be fun. i will not do a reality show, though. >> how you feel about this? >> i am in shock. >> good shot? >> i think it's fabulous cook it doesn't matter to what i feel. >> sharon, what a revelation. >> i am happy because it is what jack wants and i am happy and i always wanted to be a grand mal. it could be better. >> you are a granddad by your first two is. this is it.